. >> so when he says harry reid says this, chuck schumer says is, we don't have a spending problem, it is a revenue issue, we have to get more taxes. what you say? are they smoking something? >> we have a spending problem. >> i am just saying, why can't they be like an alcoholic? >> to your earlier point, everybody is talking around the edges right now. entitlements, 60% of our budget is captured. >> well, i was going to say, let's be clear. what we are actually looking at is $44 billion. 1% of the federal budget in fiscal year 2013. even with sequestration, we will spend more than 2013 we spend in 2012. we have a spending problem, absolutely. but we do not necessarily have a revenue problem in the sense that revenues are at or near all-time highs. what we do have is an inability to match things with our revenue. we should be spending something closer to what we were spending last year of the bill. >> i think it could quickly get the ball rolling. i just think that we have to get past the blame game. you know, it's sort of like this are not. >> sequestration is something we can go forw